Vice Presidential Debate; Joe Biden v Paul Ryan: October 11, 2012; Danville Kentucky. RYAN SAYS HE AND ROMNEY CAN DO BETTER BUT GIVES NO SPECIFICS. BIDEN RELAXED CONFIDENT IN COMMAND OF THE FACTS. BIDEN MORE IMPRESSIVE. RYAN TALKING AS IF WAS TRYING TO SELL INFECTED BLANKETS TO THE INDIANS.
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Thursday night’s debate had Ryan, as his predecessor Romney in the first debate did, making loose allegations about Medicare, tax policy and spending that didn’t add up. He named no tax loopholes that the Romney Ryan ticket would close to make up revenue by cutting income taxes to 20% for everyone. Biden pointed out the only way to give this huge tax cut was to eliminate the mortgage deduction, and other deductions that would have adverse effect on the middle class while the richest Americans would keep their capital gains preference and dividend exemptions. Basically Ryan’s plan would give the richest Americans a tax cut and increase defense spending at the expense of the middle class who would pay more.
Ryan would cut Medicare benefits by going to a voucher system which would reduce benefits to seniors and basically leave them to try and obtain adequate care from private insurance companies. He argued this would provide more care at cheaper rates and that Medicare was bankrupt as well as Social Security. He bought up the 716 billion dollar cut to Medicare in Affordable Health Care. Biden pointed this was the same proposal he had made in his budget and the cut would only effect providers not benefits to seniors on Medicare.
Biden pointed out that Social Security was not bankrupt and with some minor tweaks as had been done in a bipartisan manner by Reagan and Tip O’Neil Social Security it would be there for the foreseeable future. As for Medicare it was sound until 2024 because of President Obama’s adjustments. Also Affordable Healthcare would drive down the cost of health care in the future and more people would be covered with less expense than under Medicare and Medicaid now.
Ryan attacked the administration under its foreign policies particularly in the Mid-East. He failed to note the Arab Spring and the turmoil caused by that or suggest what should be done that wasn’t being done. Ryan alluded to the death of Ambassador Stevens as a security and intelligence failure caused by the present Administration. Biden countered that the intelligence information available did not forecast the attack and that it was a planned attack carried out by terrorists. Ryan kept saying a detachment of Marines should have been stationed at the Benghazi Consulate. (However Marines are not assigned to consulates only embassies. Also given the overwhelming numbers and fire power of the terrorists it is unlikely they would have made a difference. Also Marines in uniform would have been more inflammatory than the ex Delta force members in plain clothes assigned to the consulate.) Again Ryan failed to back up his general statements with specifics. Biden pointed out Ryan’s proposed budget cut embassy and consulate security by over 300 million dollars.
In the case of Iran, Ryan offered no new solutions other than the sanctions now in place, although he criticized administration policies as being too little too late. Biden asked if he would go to war with Iran now. Ryan refused to answer.
Biden was in control of the facts through out the debate and smiling if not laughing at some of the preposterous statements Ryan was making.
Ryan was pro- life. Biden said his own personal conviction was for pro- life but he would not force his own convictions on others therefore he was pro- choice as a public policy. Women he believed should have control over their own bodies.
At the end of the debate it was obvious that Joe Biden was in control of the facts and for protection of the middleclass while Ryan was selling unsubstantiated pie in the sky policies that benefitted the super wealthy. Defense spending would increase and the middleclass would pay by increased taxes or reduction in health and Social Security benefits.
What Ryan was proposing would throw his own widowed mother under the bus as she is receiving Social Security and Medicare.
It was obvious Ryan speaks for his wealthy 1% backers: banks, insurance companies, hedge funds, large real estate companies and wealthy investors who have supported his career with more than 3 million dollars in campaign contributions. This backing has allowed an ultraconservative to remain the representastive of a blue collar working class disrtrict for the past fifteen years.